Iros instead of "idos" (imperative of verb "ir")?

Question

I have heard many times the use of the infinitive instead of the imperative in Spanish with the verb "ir". For example: - Si me queréis, *irse (Instead of: Si me queréis, váyanse) [Famous quote of artist Lola Flores] - *Ir yendo (Instead of: Id yendo) - *Iros ya (Instead of: Idos ya)In Spain I have heard this error so often that for me "iros" even sounds much better than "idos" though I know that it's an error. Does this problem happen in any other regions of the world? Does it also happen with other verbs?

Answer 1

Like my colleague above, I believe the issue is pronunciation.

With the short roll of the single "R" in "iros," the tongue can create a vocal stop, creating the "D" sound that you hear. There is a similar phenomenon with Puerto Rican infinitive pronunciations; their vocal stop creates more of an "L" sound where there is an "R" written.

I find it helpful sometimes to translate the phrase directly from Spanish to English. Usually, it will sound like "Ye Olde English" to my ears, but it makes sense. The English "to" of the Spanish infinitive can shed light on the speakers intentions, because the imperative does not translate that way. Also try to use context clues.

And one final suggestion: singing can neutralize accents, much like English-language music. When practicing listening skills, Spanish-language music (with accompanying lyrics) is a very valuable tool to aid comprehension without being distracted by the various accents and dialects.

I hope this helps.

Answer 2

¿ Quires decir el verbo "ir" en el pronombre 'vosotros'?

Present: Vosotros vais

Preterit: Vos. fuisteis

Imperfect: Vos. Ibais

Present Perfect: Vos. habéis ido

Future: Vos. iréis

Conditional: Vos. iríais

Pluperfect: Vos. habíais ido

Preterit Perfect: Vos. hubisteis ido

Future Perfect: Vos. habréis ido

Conditional Perfect: habríais ido

Preset Subjuntive: Vos. vayáis

Pre.Perf. Subjuntive: hayáis ido

Imperfect Subjuntive: Vos. fuerais

or fueseis

Past Perfect Subjentive: Vosotros hubierais ido o hubieseis ido

Answer 3

Hello,

I was trying to understand your question.

I will try to answer and if I am not clear, please let me know. Between the infinitive - present- and Imperative , the key is the entonacion

. On the other hand , for example IROS as infinitive is presented with another conjugated verb: EXAMPLE Me habiais prometido iros, dijo la madre

I am not aware of Dona Lola Flores words....but I am sure in her pronunciation could be the confusion...

I hope my explanation could help .

Adriana