Alex R.

asked • 10/31/16

How do you get ip from log(-1)?

According to Wolfram you can somehow get iπ from log(-1), how?

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=log(-1)

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Arturo O. answered • 10/31/16

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Kenneth S.

I agree with ei(pi) = -1 but I have suspicions about taking natural logarithm of this equation because the argument of ln must be a positive number.
 
Is there something in Theory of complex functions that extends the definition of ln that I have to be reminded of?
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11/01/16

Arturo O.

Kenneth,
 
I have seen ln(z), where z is complex, defined in mathematical physics textbooks as 
 
ln(z) = ln(r) + iθ
 
In this case, -1 is just 1e in polar form, so ln(-1) = ln(1) + iπ = 0 +  iπ = iπ
 
But there is the matter of the multivalued nature of ln(z) when z is complex, which I did not get into in my solution, where we should really say 
 
ln(z) = ln|z| + i(θ ± 2πn), n = integer
 
If I recall correctly, the infinite possible values of n are the Riemann branches. (Now that is something I have not worked with in 20+ years!)
 
Of course, the mathematical physics treatments will not be as formal as in textbooks in pure math.  A formal proof of the validity of taking ln(z), where z is something other than a positive real number, is probably found in a textbook on complex analysis, written for the pure mathematician.  My exposure to the subject has focused on applications.  But this is a widely used form, especially in problems involving oscillations.
 
 
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