Francis G.
asked 04/09/24Polynomial factorization
How can I completely factorize y8 + 64 ?
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Raymond B. answered 04/09/24
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y^8 + 64
= (y^4 -4y^2 +8)(y^4+4y+8)
=y^4(y^4 +4y^2+8) -4y^2(y^4 +4y^2 +8) + 8(y^4+4y^2+8)
= y^8 +4y^6 +8y^4 -4y^6 -16y^4 -32y^2 + 8y^4 +32y^2 + 64
all terms cancel except the y^8 + 64
2 y^6 terms cancel each other +4y^6 -4y^6
3 y^4 terms cancel +8y^4-16y^4+8y^4
2 y^2 terms cancel +32y^2-32y^2
because y^8+64 doesn't resemble standard alegebraic identities
many knowledgeable talented mathematicians are tempted to deny it can be factored at all
there are other factors, but they're likely non integer factors such as using sum of cubes formula
(a^3+b^3)= (a+b)(a^2 -ab+ b^2), with b=4, a= x^(8/3) = (x^(1/3)^8= x^2(x^(1/3)^2
=(x^2(x^(1/3)^2+ 4)(x^2(x^(1/3)^4 +4)(x^5x^(2/3)^2 +16) which generally is non-integer, unless x=1 or similar values
with x=1 =a, b=4
=(a+b)(a^2-ab+b^2)= (1+4)(1-4+16) =5(13)=65
=a^3+ b^3 = (1+4^3) =(1+64) =65
so you could use sum of cubes formula with restrictions on x, and factor it into integer factors
factoring is often trial and error, and a trying trial sometimes
one way around that is
use the factoring calculators on line such as Mathpapa or Symbolab
which are both free, some cost money
one though mistakenly says it's not factorable
the other correctly gives the above 1st solution the product of 2 integer trinomials
Francis G.
Could you explain step by step how you got to the first calculation of (y^4-4y^2+8)(y^4+4y+8)?04/10/24
y^8 + 64 does factor as
(y^4 + 4y^2 + 16) * (y^4 -4y^2 + 16)
FOIL is a very bad method for multiplying trinomials. The box method is much better.
The above product can be factored more if complex numbers are allowed.
TIMES Y^4 -4Y^2 8
Y^4 Y^8 -4Y^6 8Y^4
4Y^2 4Y^6 -16Y^4 32Y^2
8 8Y^4 32Y^2 64
The intersecting rows and columns represent the product of the monomials in the top row and leftmost column.
Note that most of the diagonal elements cancel out, leaving only y^8 + 64. Anyone still believe that this product is incorrect?
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Paul K.
The simplest answer...it is unfactorable. That is as far as you can go. If it was y² - 64, then that would be different because it would be the sum of 2 squares, but because this is y² + 64, the addition sign + basically makes it impossible to factor any further.04/22/24