Ashley P.

asked • 05/03/23

Euler Lagrange Equations

Let f(x,y,y') = y*[1 + ( (y')^2 ) ] , where y = y(x)

Solve for y

Paul M.

tutor
Your notation is confusing: what is f(x,y,y')?
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05/03/23

Ashley P.

It's the given function
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05/03/23

Bradford T.

This just a differential equation of x, y and dy/dx. Is there a driving function or is it equal to zero? y*[1 + ( (y')^2 ) ] = ?? Or is there a constraint function so that f(x,y,y') = lambda*g(x)?
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05/03/23

Paul M.

tutor
To amplify what Bradford T. said: Do you mean 0=y[1+(y')^2], a so-called homogeneous DE or do you mean a given specific function (e.g. e^x) = the right hand side? BTW: your useless answer to my original comment tells me that you don't understand what you are asking!
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05/03/23

Roger R.

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The Euler-Lagrange equation for a function f(x,y,y') is the 2nd-order ordinary differential equation D₂f(x,y(x),y'(x)) -d/dx{D₃f(x,y(x),y'(x))} = 0 for an unknown function y(x). It plays an important role in the Calculus of Variations (and in Physics).
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05/04/23

Ashley P.

My instructor has given this question and a sample answer as in the following image: drive(DOT)google(DOT)com/file/d/1XkjhzrN1MKNc0XDrLlAR_pu6l39P9AY7/view?usp=share_link I specifically do not understand how he arrived at step 2 from step 1. Any help with this would be highly appreciated!
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05/04/23

Dayv O.

If f(x,y,y')=k^2=y*(1+y'^2) then this is end of calculus of variation problem for fastest curve under influence of gravity. Its solution is x=(1/2)k^2(t-sin(t)) and y=(1/2)k^2(1-cos(t)),,,,a cycloid curve.
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05/04/23

Roger R.

tutor
The "Step 2 from Step 1" part is executing the d/dx{...} and then simplifying.
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05/04/23

Roger R.

tutor
The equation yy'' -y'² -1 = 0 is correct. [But not for the function f(x,y,y') you have given; typo!]
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05/04/23

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