
Ashley P.
asked 05/03/23Euler Lagrange Equations
Let f(x,y,y') = y*[1 + ( (y')^2 ) ] , where y = y(x)
Solve for y
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David L. answered 05/13/23
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According to Ashley's notes in the 9 comments made in the question, what Ashley gave for f(x,y,y') contains a typo.
It should read f(x,y,y') = y√[1+(y')2] = y[1+(y')2]1/2, where y=y(x).
This makes it possible to explain the notes that Ashley gives in the 9 comments. I will do that now.
We are setting up the Euler-Lagrange equation ∂f/∂y - d(∂f/∂y')/dx = 0.
Because f(x,y,y') = y√[1+(y')2]
∂f/∂y = [1+(y')2]1/2
∂f/∂y' = (2yy')/(2√[1+(y')2]) = yy'/√[1+(y')2]
Then
d( ∂f/∂y' )/dx = d( yy'/√[1+(y')2] )/dx
We can use the quotient rule of calculus to get the derivative of the expression on the right-hand side of the line above. Because this expression is messy, I will write the numerator and the denominator of that expression separately.
The denominator is [1+(y')2]
The numerator is (y'y' + yy'')√[1+(y')2] - yy'(2y'y'')/(2√[1+(y')2]) = [(y')2 + yy'']√[1+(y')2] - yy''(y')2/√[1+(y')2]
We can factor out 1/√[1+(y')2] from the numerator.
This makes the denominator [1+(y')2]3/2
The numerator becomes
[(y')2 + yy''][1+(y')2] - yy''(y')2 = (y')2 + yy'' + (y')4 + yy''(y')2 - yy''(y')2 = (y')2 + yy'' + (y')4
Combining the numerator and denominator,
d(∂f/∂y')/dx = [(y')2 + yy'' + (y')4]×[1+(y')2]-3/2
∂f/∂y - d(∂f/∂y')/dx = [1+(y')2]1/2 - [(y')2 + yy'' + (y')4]×[1+(y')2]-3/2 = 0
Multiplying through by [1+(y')2]3/2,
[1+(y')2]2 - [(y')2 + yy'' + (y')4] = 1 + 2(y')2 + (y')4 - (y')2 - yy'' - (y')4 = 1 + (y')2 - yy'' = 0
The equation 1 + (y')2 - yy'' = 0 is the equation that Ashley wanted to see the derivative of.
This is a non-linear second-order differential equation, which I don't see how to solve. Anyone have any ideas?
Fortunately, there's another way to tackle this problem, using an alternate formulation of the Euler-Lagrange equation that can be used when f(x,y,y') has no x-dependence, it depends only on y and y':
y∂f/∂y' - f = c, where c is a constant. This gives us
y'yy'[1+(y')2]-1/2 - y[1+(y')2]1/2 = c
Multiplying through by [1+(y')2]1/2 gives us y(y')2 - y[1+(y')2] = c[1+(y')2]1/2
The left-hand side y(y')2 - y[1+(y')2] = y(y')2 - y - y(y')2 = y
Thus, y = c[1+(y')2]1/2
Squaring both sides gives us y2 = c2[1+(y')2].
Then
y2/c2 = 1+(y')2
This is the last entry in Ashley's notes.
This can be solved. •Take the derivative of both sides of this equation:
2yy' = 2c2y'y''
Cancelling out the twos and gathering everything on one side of the equation,
yy' - c2y'y'' = 0
Factoring out y',
y'(y - c2y'') = 0
Either y' = 0 or y - c2y'' = 0.
y' = 0 implies y = a constant, which is a trivial solution.
y - c2y'' = 0 implies y'' = y/c2, so y = a•sinh(x/c) + b•cosh(x/c), where a and b are constants.
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Paul M.
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