Joey O.
asked 07/20/15Area of a parallelogram using 4 points
I need some help using vectors to find the area of this parallelogram. I use three points to create two vectors with the same initial points and use a 2x2 determinant to compute the cross product then find it's magnitude. However, I keep getting the wrong answer. Thanks for the help!
Find the area of the parallelogram with vertices at (-2, -4), (-13, 8), (7, 7), and (-4, 19).
More
4 Answers By Expert Tutors
Gregg O is correct.
The vectors in Jesus's case should be
A = (9,11) not (9,8)
B = (11, -12)
AxB = 229 k
Marc H. answered 07/31/15
Tutor
4
(18)
Learning how to learn.
so who is right?
Well, in order to find the area of the parallelogram or the cross product magnitude, let's first do the cross product of two vectors. In this case I am going to chose the vector which connects the point (-13,8) to (-4,19) which I'll call vector A, and the vector which connects (-13,8) to (-2,4) which I'll call vector B.9
Now for Vector A, I can break it up into unit-vector form which will make it 9i + 8j and vector B it's unit-vector form will be 11i - 4j. (example: for Vector B I just need to find the change in x to get 11 for the the i-unit-vector and the change in y for the j-unit vector). Now, I used the right hand rule and made B my first vector on the matrix, but I don't need to do that, I just want a positive result yet it doesn't matter since it asks for the magnitude, which is the absolute value of the cross product. Thus, constructing the matrix we get:
| 11 -4 |
| 9 8 |
where the all the i unit vectors are on the left column and all the j unit vector are at the right. All we have to do now is find the absolute value of the determinant of this matrix which is just: |(11*8) - (9*-4)| = |88 + 36| = 124. Thus the magnitude of the cross product and the area of the parallelogram is 124.
Gregg O. answered 07/20/15
Tutor
5.0
(366)
For 3 semesters in college, top of my class in Calculus
You have to make sure that none of the vectors you are using connects opposite corners (cuts through the interior of the parallelogram), so start out with a rough plot to determine which points you'll use for defining the vectors.
Let point A be (-2,-4), point B be (-13,8) and point C be (7,7).
vector AB is <-13-(-2), 8-(-4)> = <-11,12>
vector AC is <7-(-2),7-(-4)> = <9,11>
Take the cross product:
| i j k |
|-11 12 0 |
|9 11 0 |
= 0i + 0j + (-11*11-9*12)k
= -229k
The area is the magnitude of this vector, or
229 square units.
William W.
if you're top of your class you'd know you can't take the crossproduct of 2 vectors outside of R^3, it can only be done in R^3 not R2, or R^n when n>3
Report
02/11/21
Gregg O.
You're mistaken that a cross product in R^2 was taken. The fact that only a non-zero k component remains is enough to identify a cross product in R^3 of 2 vectors with only non-zero i and/or j components, exactly in line with the computation. Have a good one.
Report
02/12/21
Still looking for help? Get the right answer, fast.
Ask a question for free
Get a free answer to a quick problem.
Most questions answered within 4 hours.
OR
Find an Online Tutor Now
Choose an expert and meet online. No packages or subscriptions, pay only for the time you need.
Jesus S.
07/20/15