Asked • 05/12/19

Could an entity capable of creating a planet through scientific (not supernatural) means be called a "god"?

I first must say that I was asking a similar question on the philosophy subreddit but did not get many answers so I will rephrase it here, because I'm somewhat curious about what would theists say about this particular scenario. So, as the title says, imagine that somewhere in the Universe, an advanced intelligence (be it biological or artificial or both) decides to create a planet from the quantum vacuum that constitutes the empty space which surrounds a lone star. And, also suppose that this intelligence has the knowledge and the scientific/technical means to accomplish this goal (that is, this intelligence has acces to a very advanced and deep knowledge about the workings of the Universe and an equally advanced technology). So, this intelligence creates a planet from "nothing" and decides that it is the divine creator and the sole sovereign of that world. Given this scenario, my question is: on what basis would theists reject these claims of divinity? After all, this intelligence has created a whole world where there were only quantum fluctuations and empty space before, it has seen the first dawn and the first dusk on this planet and it also guided the evolution of the world.

Robert G.

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---part 2 of 2--- “Divinity” for a theist is typically the characteristics the theist believes God possesses, such as long-suffering (patient), loving, concerned for others, having complete self-control, etc. At times this definition may include powers such as to destroy a city, create a planet, predict the future, part the Red sea, etc. But those things are not the essence of “divinity” per se. I doubt a theist would merely characterize God’s divinity as being mere power since even the Roman and Greek gods were said to have great power, however they also seemed to be quite immoral and at times full of debauchery. The “theists” (as mentioned above there are many kinds of “theists”) generally consider the God of the Christian Bible to be a transcendent spiritual being, without clear form and with unlimited power. E.g., Omniscient (all knowing), Omnipotent (all powerful), Omnipresent (everywhere at the same time). There is some debate whether these qualities are actually explicitly described in the Christian Bible or if they are merely interpretations/creations of St. Anslem. Regardless, “traditional” Christianity does not see God as merely a “super powerful” human or an all powerful genie from Aladdin’s magical lamp.  God to them is someone that somehow transcends the physical realm, yet they (Christian theists) can’t really put their finger on exactly what their God is, and they don’t seem to be asking that question either . . . almost as if they don’t want to know. Creating something from nothing (“creatio ex nihilo”) is a creation [no pun intended] of St. Thomas Aquinas or at least popularized by him. There isn’t much “proof” of this in the Christian Bible. The Bible merely says “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth . . . ” It does not say there was “nothing” there prior to creation. Likewise, does “nothing” mean no pre-existing physical matter? Or does it mean “no-thing” meaning there was no *distinction* between any individual objects such that you could call anything an individual “thing”? For example, you could have a humongous lump of clay the size of the universe, but there is no individual distinct thing there . . .just clay. Once you start to create “things” from the clay, then you get distinctions or “things”. Likewise, what “beginning” is the Bible talking about? The beginning of all time? The beginning of this particular solar system? It is not clear. Likewise what we know as physical matter may in fact have a non-material origin such that spirit and matter are simply two ends of a spectrum or continuum. Much like water can be a solid or a gas, matter can be physical or spiritual. Thus, I am not sure creatio ex nihilo is really an actual theory or instead simply unexplained science. As far as an entity creating a planet using science being called “god”, yes there are some theists who believe this such as Mormons (a.k.a The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) who believe God was once a human being who merely perfected himself and grew to become a god and actually now lives on a distant planet called Kolob. Likewise, in the Jewish scriptures (“Old Testament” of the Christian Bible) it alludes to God actually being a physical being that you could see and potentially touch. See Exodus chapter 24 verses 9 to 11 where it says “Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel: And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness. And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.” In short, Christian theists would not call your super-scientist being a god only because that type of god contradicts their notion of what God is, however the fact may be that God is in fact a super-scientist and theists simply don’t want to accept this reality because it might threaten their belief in eternal life or the absolute authority of their God, since placing limitations on a god, to them, makes such god less powerful and thus less worthy of respect. ---end part 2 of 2--- (note my original answer was under 10,000 characters, but the WyzAnt system would not accept it.)
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