Marietta H.

asked • 07/03/15

Finding possible values of b and c

Three positive integers a, b and c are such that 1/a + 2/b = 1/c + 1/2.
1. Make c the subject of the formula.
2. If a=3, find the possible values if b and c.
 
Note: how many possible values are there? Because I need 7 pairs.

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Andrew M. answered • 07/04/15

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Marietta H.

For 2. how can i find all the possibilities? I thought i could use a graph and two linear equations, but i don't have two separate equations.
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07/04/15

Michael J.

In my solution, I obtained the equation
 
3b(2 + c) = 2c(b + 6)
 
 
From this equation, we can create two separate equations with like variables.  One for b and one for c. 
 
2 + c = 2c                  and                      3b = b + 6
 
We can do this because each side of the original equation is a product. Solve both of these equations,
 
c = 2              and            b = 3
 
 
Plug these values into the equation that I obtained.
 
3(3)(2 + 2) = 2(2)(3 + 6)
 
    9(4)  =   4(9)
 
    36 = 36
 
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07/04/15

Marietta H.

But that only gives you one possible pair of values. And my teacher said I'm supposed to have 7. (Wished she'd given me a more helpful hint). I have no idea how to get that.
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07/04/15

Andrew M.

From the point which Michael and I both obtained, as well as yourself:
 
3b(2+c)=2c(b+6)
We can rearrange also to
 
3b = 2c        eqn 1
2+c = b+6   eqn 2
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From eqn 1 we have  b = 2/3 c
 
Plug that into eqn 2 and we have
 
2+c=2/3 c +6
1/3 c = 4
c = 4(3)
c = 12
 
3b = 2c  so...  3b = 24 ..  b = 8
 
So another solution is   a=3, b = 8, c =12
 
I'm not certain about how to graph out all the possibilities but we know we have
two solutions for a,b,c ...
 
3,3,2    and   3,8,12
 
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07/04/15

Andrew M.

Looking at this again I went back to the original equation   1/a + 2/b = 1/c + 1/2
 
Put 3 in for a:
1/3 + 2/b = 1/c + 1/2
2/b-1/c = 1/2 - 1/3
 
Setting 2/b = 1/2    and  1/c = 1/3   gives   b = 4   and   c = 3
We now have 3 solutions:   a,b,c = 3,3,2   3,4,3,    3,8,12
 
Lets work with even numbers for b;
Let b = 6
1/3 + 2/6 = 1/c + 1/2
4/6 - 1/2 = 1/c
1/6 = 1/c
c = 6
a,b,c =  3,3,2   3,4,3,    3,8,12     3,6,6
 
Continuing in the vein  let b = 10....   We come up with c = 30
So a 5th solution is   3,10,30
 
We now have  a,b,c = {3,3,2} {3,4,3} {3,8,12} {3,6,6} {3,10,30}
 
When I tried b = 12 it does not work because I get 0 = 1/c ....
 
Let's try even values for c now:   we have so far c = 2,3,6,12,30
Let c = 18  (continuing in the vein of multiples of 6)
 
1/3 + 2/b = 1/c + 1/2
1/3 + 2/b = 1/18 + 1/2   This ends up with b = 9   giving solution  3,9,18
 
We are now up to  a,b,c = {3,3,2} {3,4,3} {3,6,6} {3,8,12} {3,9,18} {3,10,30}
 
I'm having difficulty finding that last one.  There has to be a pattern to these answers....
but I'm not quite seeing it.  But we do have 6 out of 7 answers.
 
 
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07/04/15

Andrew M.

For a final solution, since we have b = 3,4,6,8,9,10...  I put in b = 11
 
1/3 + 2/11 = 1/c + 1/2
22/66 + 12/66 = 1/c + 33/66
34/66 = 1/c + 33/66
 
c = 66
 
OUR solution set is
{a,b,c} = {3,3,2} {3,4,3} {3,6,6} {3,8,12} {3,9,18} {3,10,30}{3,11,66}
 
It no longer worked once I got up to b = 12
 
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07/04/15

Marietta H.

I got the answer before you! From c=(2ab)/(4a-ab+2b) it can be simplified to get 12c-bc=6b. 
 
I put in all the numbers 1-12 for b. If b is any greater than 12, e.g. 12c-13c, the c would be negative which is not possible since the question said they were all positive integers.
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07/04/15

Andrew M.

Fantastic.  lol.  However, in my defense, I'm at work and doing this between busy spells.  :-).    Great job.
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Michael J. answered • 07/04/15

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