Lily S.

asked • 02/13/21

What is the true volume?

I completed a homework assignment similar to the actual experiment, which read: A student calibrated a eudiometer by first recording the mass of the empty eudiometer followed by filling the eudiometer to the 50.00 mL line with deionized water at 22°C and recorded the mass. The mass of water was 49.012 g. A reading from the eudiometer of 46.78 mL corresponds to what true volume? I obtained 49.96mL.


I repeated this in lab, measured about 50mL (came to 50.21mL), and weighed (49.771g) @ 22 Celsius. For some reason, I'm having difficulty determining the true volume for the real lab. Help?

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Stanton D. answered • 02/14/21

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Lily S.

The initial problem (50ml with 49.012g mass) was from a homework assignment for the pre-lab. The 50.21mL and 49.771g mass is the one I conducted in class So do I repeat the same thing, then? I'm confused because the homework assignment starts off by filling to 50mL but reads 46mL and weighs 49g. Whereas in lab, I filled it to around 50mL, which when measured looked like 50.21mL, and weighed 49.771g. I have one less number from the hw problem, hence my confusion.
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Stanton D.

Yah, I don't know what the pre-lab meant by the "fills to" and "reads" distinction. (Sounds like it was written by someone without any actual lab experience!) It's just a tube, closed at one end, with calibration rulings, right? And this is a calibration run, not an actual usage (for the actual usage, you fill with liquid, turn it over without losing any liquid, bubble a gas to be measured up into it, and adjust external liquid level to match the internal meniscus. The internal volume of the gas is then what is measured, at the (otherwise measured) external atmospheric pressure). Another name for this technique is "gas volume measurement by displacement of water". And, if you actually eventually _do_ use it to measure a gas, remember that you must subtract the vapor pressure of water vapor at that temperature (after any adjustments from your calibration!), since the gas in the tube is saturated with water vapor after bubbling up through water. That's 19.8 torr at 22C, where 760 torr = 1 atm = 101.325kPa. You don't see that correction as you do your calibration, of course; but, it's not so small -- about 1/19 atmosphere. -- Sorry to say, but sometimes even your instructions might be confused, such as is the case here. I have seen errors frequently in SAT subject preparation books -- those are prep books for tests students take in high school, in order to apply to colleges (some publishers are better than others!). So it's good you checked "with an expert", rather than just shrugging and thinking, "I don't get this stuff ....". -- Cheers again, --Mr. d.
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Lily S.

So, just to make sure, the true volume then would be 49.881+.33mL? My instructor said the true volume is usually always less than what we measue, hence the mass of water being 49.771g. The lab was to find the ideal gas constant and this is part of the process. I got the pressure, temp, and volume of the gas, but I have to get the true volume from earlier so I can correct the gas volume to the "true" volume.
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