Joshua M.

asked • 11/28/13

There are two dinstict round tables,each with 5 seats,in how many ways may a group of 10 be seated

permutations &combinations

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Jonathan G.

Few people take into account the rotational symmetries.  Nice application of forced exclusion in your explanation.
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Ahmad H.

(This number is 4! = 24 )why 4!
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Vivian L. answered • 11/28/13

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Jonathan G.

You have neglected to account for the rotational symmetries.  To see why, consider the case of 3 people at a single table.  Your solution would indicate 3!=6 possible arrangements, namely (read the arrangement clockwise)
 
ABC
ACB
BAC
BCA
CAB
CBA
 
Note, however, that there are exactly two equivalence classes of arrangement that group as
 
ABC, BCA, CAB
ACB, BAC, CBA

Hence there are exactly two ways for three individuals to sit around a round table:
 
ABC, ACB.
 
In fact, given N people with N seats at a round table, there are N!/N = (N-1)! ways to arrange the individuals.  As Richard alludes to in his solution, it is a matter of wording for the equivalency of seating arrangements.  Oftentimes the implied solution for these types of problems is that two seating arrangements are considered equivalent if the person to the right of each individual does not change.  (See my example above for a better understanding.)
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