Amey B.

asked • 12/24/15

help me solve my confusion if a number x is 10% less than another number y and y

if a number x is 10% less than another number y and y is 10%more than 125 then x is equal to
please understand my confusion read carefully i know the solution
 
y=125*10/100+125                       y-y*10/100=125
y=137.50                                      0.90y=125
                                                    y=138.89
 
both are equation but have different answers this example is easy so i can understand because 125 is no so i can have only 125 of 10% therefore 1 is correct. but how to tackle complex problems
 
same for second equation
now x is 10% less means 10% of x or 10%of another number y how to determine.so please teach how to determine that any percent number of that number or other number
 
 

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Mark M. answered • 12/24/15

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Amey B.

sorry sir i dont understand
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12/24/15

Mark M.

Please be more specific so that I can answer.
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12/24/15

Amey B.

if a number x is 10% less than another number y and y is 10%more than 125 then x is equal to
 
y=125*10/100+125                    y-y*10/100=125
y=137.50                                   0.90y=125
                                                 y=138.89
 
in above i have Shawn comparison of both equation i know first one is correct because it is easy example but
my question is what to see in problem in question to make equation correct   
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12/25/15

Mark M.

Your second equation should be:
x = y - (10/100)y       x should be where you have the 125.
 
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12/25/15

David W.

To be most helpful and to be very clear, I would suggest that Mark M.'s comment (although quite correct) could be written:
"Your second equation should be:
  y-y*10/100=x                  x should be where you have the 125."
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12/25/15

Mark M.

My attempt, perhaps futile, was to follows the syntax of the English.
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12/25/15

David W.

Your approach is admirable (from the perspective of any teacher/tutor) and is the final goal of the teaching effort:  I hope Amey finally gets there.
 
My approach followed Law 4 of J.M. Gregory's Seven Laws of Teaching:  "(4) The LESSON to be mastered must be explicable in the terms of truth already known by the learner -- the UNKNOWN must be explained by means of the KNOWN."
 
Building a bridge from what some of these posts reveal to what is the clearly desired solution is a formidable task -- you do it well and concisely (THX!).
 
It often takes me longer (and with more words) because my assessment is that a rather profound need exists.
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12/25/15

David W.

When I did my master’s work in CS in the 1970’s one guy worked on a program that appeared to carry on a conversation with you.  By the ‘90s, AI had progressed to the point that there could be an actual intelligent conversation.  In this century, IBM’s Watson beat Ken Jennings at Jeopardy.  Now, eveyone’s cell phone has a “person” to locate restaurants, do research, and keep you on schedule.  Sadly, most computer-based tutorials are either still text/picture-oriented (not audio/video), are not interactive, and make only one style of presentation – regardless of the documented needs of the learner.
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