Linda C.

asked • 11/23/21

how to scale numeric data?

There are students applying for a program of study in a college. They all have passed the same prerequisite courses in a certificate level in the college, and now their unweighted GPA (0-4) is submitted for selection process together with some other scores from other categories.

The director of the program specifies for GPA 40 points from total 93 points she has given to all different categories. The lowest GPA allowed to participate in this competition is 2.5.

There is another category which is a standardized test, and students have been given scores in the form of percentage. The lowest percentage allowed to compete is 70 percent. The director of the program has assigned 30 points for this standardized test. The table she prepared for assigning the relevant point to the achieved score of each student has two columns one for percentage score which she has started from 64, assigning zero to it; and the successive rows contain 65, 66, 67, ...100. the other column which is the points column starts with 0 as I said opposite to 64, and then 0.83 opposite to 65, 1.66(0.83*2) opposite to 66, ..., 30 opposite to 100.

Would you please let me know how the table according to which each student's point for his or her GPA should be assigned will look like? ( The lowest GPA allowed to participate in this competition is 2.5.)The selection process is solely based on who has got the highest score after summing up the points from all the categories with total possible points of 93.


Thank you very much

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David B. answered • 11/24/21

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Linda C.

Dear Mr David B. You do not know how much I appreciate you for taking your time and answering my question. Thank you very much again. I just did not get the last two lines. What is meant by GPA score and why we need that formula after we have created the table according to the formula you mentioned in the previous lines? The program director has assigned points to GPA as follows: GPA Range Points(prerequisites) 3.751-4.0 40.00 3.51-3.75 38.00 3.251-3.5 36.00 3.01-3.25 34.00 2.751-3.0 32.00 2.51-2.75 28.00 2.251-2.5 26.00 2.01-2.25 24.00 what is your professional opinion about this table in comparison to what she has done for that standardized test to assign it 30 points? Is this table a fair assignment of 40 points to GPA? With this definition that she has done for GPA points, has she given 40 points or practically just 12 points to GPA? (40-28=12) doesn't this definition of GPA points adversely affect those with higher GPA and lower ST scores vs those with lower GPA and higher ST scores? As you said a 3.25 GPA was worth 20 points, but now it suddenly gets 34 or maybe 36 points (with a thousandth difference in GPA 0.001) ... and poor GPA 4.0 gets nothing extra! Please pay attention that she even did not keep the interval the same: between line 3 and line 4, the interval suddenly changes to 4 instead of 2. And she claims she has transferred the points to an excel spreadsheet and the only factor in selection of the students for the program was solely the sum of their points. I want you to know that I really appreciate your help. Thank you very much
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11/24/21

Linda C.

I do not now how to draw a table if possible in this box, and what appears in my above comment may be confusing ; so, i decided to explain the director's table. sorry for inconvenience. left column is named "GPA Range" Right column is named "Points (prerequisites)" there are 8 lines first line left column 2.01-2.25 and right column 24 second line left column 2.251-2.5 and right column 26 third line left column 2.51-2.75 and right column 28 forth line left column 2.751-3.0 and right column 32 fifth line left column 3.01-3.25 and right column 34 sixth line left column 3.251-3.5 and right column 36 seventh line left column 3.51-3.75 and right column 38 eighth line left column 3.751-4.0 and right column 40
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11/24/21

David B.

The last two line were to show how to turn an equation which gives decimal answers to banded (rounded integer) answers. This is apparently what your teacher did. However, I agree with you that her answer does not match the original requirements as you told me. Either she or you quoted things wrong because if what you said was correct that the lowest GPS allowed to compete was 2.5 then scores below that should have a value of 0, yet you indicate values were given for a GPA between 2.01 and 2.25 as 24. Also, her scores go from 40 to 24 instead of 40 to 1 or 0. This makes no sense based on what you quoted. I would ask for a copy of the spreadsheet with formulas. my scale would have produced the following table(spacing of 2 except at ends because we can't go above 4.0 or below 2.5. gpa. table value 3.965-4.0. 40 3.925-3.964 39 3.85- 3.924 37 3.775-3.849 35 3.700-3.774 33 3.325-3.699 31 . , , 2.800-2.875 9 2.725-2.799 7 2.650-2.724 5 2.575 - 2.650 3 2.500 - 2.575 1 0 - 2.499 0 This is a bit arbitrary as it is defined by end conditions and the number and size of the intervals required, which seem to be ill defined by your instructor. Note here the minimum useable gpa of 2.5 has the value of 1. Less than the minimum are zero. We could also have changed the table to have the minimum useable gpa to 0 and assume people with less than 2.5 are not even allowed into the 'competition' and thus no values are assigned. Sorry that this has been so complex, and so ill defined.
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11/24/21

Linda C.

Thank you very much for your answer. My point is why double standard for GPA and TS? By the way, those tables for scaling of GPA and TEAS were their internal criteria which was not distributed. Only after I was rejected I went and talked to her and asked her to give me a copy, and surprisingly she gave me a copy. I had come to the same conclusions as you explained for GPA 40 points, but not through the formula. I found the difference of 4 and 2.5, which was 1.5 and divided it to 40 intervals. Then on excel i subtracted this amount 0.0375 from 4 in the formula line to get the next row. and then extended the formula to the remaining 38 lines. I told them that their table was wrong. Now, you are an expert in math and are confused and ask why she or them should make things so complicated. The answer is in the question which I asked you; the adverse effect on the total points of those students with relatively lower TEAS scores but higher GPA. Isn't it true that GPA has almost no effect in their selection process compared to TEAS and it has only been given a nominal 40 points? But, I need you as an expert to confirm what i know; I need to be sure and I need to have as many expert opinions as necessary. Because the school told me that I, as a 4.0 student(my grades were mostly above 95,though not considered in GPA), have got my max 40 points and all the applicants have been treated in the same way, therefore I was rejected because I was not qualified, and they did nothing wrong. They said that the program is very competitive and there is not enough space for all of the students. Then why they contradicted what they said by equating 3.751 to 4.0 ? or reduce the point gap between GPA points of the students by compressing 40 points to 12 points on behalf of TEAS? Because they want to undermine the value of GPA! They ignore the fact that here the relative points are important not the absolute points. This is a very well pre-meditated act. At first I thought they had made a mistake, but then I came to this bitter conclusion that it is well-designed and all of them are in it together. Previous year she had assigned 40 points to GPA according to her formula GPA points =(GPA*10), but there was no ST then. There was 10 points for a few different categories and 48!!!!!!!!!! points for interview. Then the technical college system of the state told them not to do interview any more since it was too subjective,,, Today I am so relieved after reading your answer to my question. Sorry, but I really need someone to listen to me and understand what my point is. This is an example of what happens behind the long interior walls of our universities and colleges...
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11/25/21

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