Bella C.
asked 07/03/20what is 1537km[N37W] - 853km[W]
Can you show me how you would do this subtraction 2d vector problem
4 Answers By Expert Tutors

William W. answered 07/03/20
Experienced Tutor and Retired Engineer
V1 - V2 = V3
V1 + -V2 = V3 where -V2 is the V2 in the opposite direction.
Here is a picture of the problem:
In order to add/subtract vectors we need them to be in the same direction. However, these are not. Let's break V1 into 2 pieces, one in the x-direction and one in the y-direction like this:
That way, we can add V1x with -V2x to get V3x then we can add V1y + -V2y to get V3y (but this is easy because V2y = 0
Using trig, V1x = V1sin(37°) = 1537sin(37°) = 924.9897 but this points in the -x direction
And V1y = V1cos(37°) = 1537cos(37°) = 1227.5028
-V2x is in the positive x-direction so:
So V3x = V1x + -V2x
V3x = -924.9897 + 853 = -71.9897
And V3y = V1y + -V2y
V3y = V1y + -V2y
V3y = 1227.5028 + 0 = 1227.5028
We can now combine V3x and V3y into a single vector V3 using the Pythagorean Theorem:
V3x2 + V3y2 = V32
V3 = √(V3x2 + V3y2)
V3 = √(-71.9897)2 + (1227.5028)2)
V3 = √(5182.5156 + 1506763.072)
V3 = √1511945.588
V3 = 1229.6 km
The direction is found using the inverse tangent function:
tan(θ) = -71.9897/1227.5028 = -0.058647 (I'm going to drop the negative for the moment and remember that this is an angle in Quadrant 2 (NW sector)
θ = tan-1(0.058647)
θ = 3.36°
So the resulting vector is 1229.6 km[N3.36W]

William W.
Kind of funny that you got 4 different answers from 4 tutors. Some are missing the fact that navigation is noted with the primary direction first, then the angle, then the direction the angle is toward. So N37W means primarily north with an offset towards west of 37 degrees. Please make sure you account for that in looking at the answers.07/04/20

Yefim S. answered 07/03/20
Math Tutor with Experience
We consider traditional coordinates system xoy (axis x has E direction, axis y has N direction). Then Ax = 1537cos(90° + 37°) - (- 853) = - 72 km; Ay = 1537cos37°=1227.50 km;
Then absA = ((- 72)2 + 1227.502)1/2 = 1229.61 km;
So bearin tanβ = Ay/Ax = 925/(- 72) β = tan-1(1229.61/(- 72)) = 93.35°
Vector A = 928 km[N3.35°W]

William W.
Looks like you made an arithmetic error Yefim, You specify Ay = 1537cos(37), which is correct) but then equate it to 925. It should be 1227.507/04/20
Heidi T. answered 07/03/20
MS in Mathematics, PhD in Physics, 7+ years teaching experience
A good first step for any vector problem is to draw a picture, drawing the vectors to scale and at the proper angles. This helps with visualizing the problem/solution. Draw the first vector starting at the origin; the second vector will be drawn starting at the head of the first vector. Since the second vector is subtracted, also draw (use a dashed or different colored line) in a direction 180 degrees from the original direction.
At this point you will also define your positive and negative directions in the horizontal and vertical. It is traditional to define East as positive horizontal and North as positive vertical, so this is what I will do.
Second step is to break each vector into its horizontal and vertical components. I am not 100% sure what your notation (N37W) means - does it mean the angle is 37 degrees north of west or 37 degrees west of north? Which is correct affects the way the trig functions are applied.
Vector 1: 1537 km (N37W)
Angle definition horizontal component vertical component
37 degrees north of west 1537 * cos 37 = 1227.5km (w) 1537 * sin 37 = 958.5 (N)
37 degrees west of north 1537 * sin 37 = 958.5 (w) 1537 * cos 37 = 1227.5km (N)
Vector 2: 853 km (W) - since this vector is only to the west, the vertical component is 0
Third step: Perform the specified operations on the horizontal and vertical components SEPARATELY. At this point remember to apply the correct sign based on the coordinate system defined in step 1. In this example, I will be using the assumption that the specified angle is 37 degrees north of west. If this is not correct, you can repeat the step using the other components.
Horizontal component: X = -1228 - (-853) = - 375 km. Since the result came out negative and west is negative, the horizontal component is: 375 km (W)
Vertical component: Y = 959 - 0 = 959 km (N)
step 4: Find the magnitude and angle of the resultant vector using the Pythagorean theorem and inverse tangent function:
Magnitude:
R = √(X2 + Y2) = √[(375)2 + (959)2] = 1030 km
Direction: NOTE: I am finding the angle wrt the West direction, so use the absolute value of the horizontal component.
Θ = tan-1(Y/X) = tan-1(959/375) = 69 degrees north of west.
If the original angle was wrt the north direction, then there are two options from this point - solve the equation as written and then subtract from 90 degrees to get the angle wrt the north direction OR use Θ = tan-1(X/Y)
Dr Gulshan S. answered 07/03/20
PhD In Physics and experience of teaching IB Physics and Math High sc
Hello Bella
Here we add vector P and -Q (853E)
R2 = P2 +Q2 +2PQ Cos theta
Theta in this case is 90-37 = 53 degree
P= 1537 km,
Q= 853 km
Plug in P and Q
get R = resultant ( In N to E direction )
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Bella C.
why is there 4 different answers??07/04/20