Josh F.

asked • 05/22/15

Precalculus help struggling with some absolute value questions. Thanks!

Solve the following                                   |  =  absolute value sign
 
2 | 2x2+4x-6|  + 4 = 2
 
 
| 3x -4| = x-2              
 
Thanks!
 
       ps, I realize these questions are pretty simple but I have missed classes lately due to illness and am unaware of what to do exactly, thanks again                     

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Andrew D.

Just a note to point out where these extraneous solutions come from:
 
abs(3x-4)=x-2  implies the global constraint x>=2 that is not accounted for.
 
Then when we take the branches 3x-4=x-2  and  -(3x-4)=x-2 these create the constraints x>=4/3 and x<=4/3
respectively since our paradigm (when using abs(x)) presupposes 3x-4 positive and negative respectively.
 
In fact the constraint x>=2 eliminates both putatory solutions immediately.
 
I'm not sure how much I like the method everyone is using because you all seem to have lost track of whether identities are actually positive or negative.  The fact that it finds all possible solutions to begin with is not immediately
obvious and certainly difficult to explain to HSers.  Steps have been glossed over in the interests of plying a neat algorithm.
 
 
 
 
 
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05/23/15

David W. answered • 05/22/15

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Michael J. answered • 05/22/15

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Mark M.

Regarding the second equation, second solution.
 
| 3(3/2) - 4 | = 3/2 - 2
| 9/2 - 4 | = -1/2
 
What of the restriction that absolute value is always positive?
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05/22/15

Michael J.

You got me on that one.  This just proves that values must be substituted into the variables to verify the equation is true.  This will be a great lesson for the student to learn.
 
 
I also notice that if I plug in x=1,
 
1 - 2 = -1 
 
This number is not positive, meaning there are no solutions.  Come to think of it, there are no solutions to any of the problems posted here.  It seems the purpose of these problems is to understand the concept absolute values rather than just solving the equations.
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05/22/15

Mark M.

No intention to "get you."
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05/22/15

David W.

Important note:   It is delightful to see synergy at work:  tutors with diverse background and ability and perspective contribute to making a better and better solution.
 
My quote: "With good people, a better process generally products a better product."
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05/22/15

Will N. answered • 05/22/15

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David W.

Wow, THX !  This is organized like a journal paper (only somewhat simpler).  Could you possibly revise it for a struggling pre-calculus student audience (especially one that has missed some classes)?  I’d like to see you revise it rather than write yet another.

1.  Could you use the same scale for the x and y axis?  Doing so does not lose anything important (I drew one) and it is much more understandable  (especially, when you recognize a slope of 1)?

2.  “In order to solve the equations, we need to drop the absolute value sign” means that “in order to collect all the x terms on one side of the equation, we must first drop the absolute value sign, but remember that doing so will introduce results that are not correct.”

3.  Drawing a graph isn’t always easy (but computer programs are making it somewhat easier), but you should always try to picture (from your drawing, if you can) what the math equations represent – it will help you understand the problem.
 
p.s., Before your "edit," I voted for Stephanie's answer (best for HS), but with a revision, an explanation that includes a graphic is better.
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05/23/15

Mark M. answered • 05/22/15

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