Garry L.

asked • 08/24/16

Help finding Magnitude and Degrees

Find the magnitude and direction of the resultant of a 5-N force that acts at an angle of 37? clockwise from the +x axis, a 3-N force that acts at an angle of 180? clockwise from the +x axis, and a 7-N force that acts at an angle of 225? clockwise from the +x axis.
 
 
I know both of the answers, the professor gave them to us, but requires us to show our work.   So I have complete the first half of the question which came out to 4.4 N.
 
I'm just not sure how to arrive at the answer for the degrees in this word problem

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Garry L.

Detail would be great you are correct I have x at -3.959 and my Y at 1.941  came out to the √19.46 = 4.4N., wish this thing had the ability to post a picture of what I have.....but without seeing the steps, because I visually learn its hard for me to tell what you are talking about....without giving me the answer can you give me an example with formulas?   I can apply it and see if I get my answer....which I know is 206º.   This is all pretty new to me....new enough that I just learned basic Trig last weekend and am not stout at it.   Only been 22 years since I have been in school, but this is my last Math/Science class.  With no alternative course to sign up for....so making the most of it.
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08/24/16

Steven W.

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Visual learning is definitely tough in a case where we cannot draw diagrams, but let me try to describe it.  I agree that your a and y components came out correct.  So, if you can draw a standard x-y set of axes, start at the origin and draw your x component as an arrow about -4 in length, pointing to the left.  Then, from the end of that, draw your y component as an arrow a little under 2 units in length, pointing up.  The resultant vector is then drawn as an arrow pointing from the origin to the tip of the arrow on the y component.  This resultant vector points into the second quadrant.
 
You can tell the resultant should point into the second quadrant, because it has a negative x component, and a positive y component.
 
Since it points into the second quadrant, it took me a moment to figure out why the angle is 206o.  As I mentioned, angles in physics are conventionally measured from the =x axis counterclockwise.  So second quadrant angles should be between 90o and 180o.  But then I realized, you were mentioning angles measured from the +x axis clockwise.  This is the reverse of standard convention, but perhaps you have an unconventional instructor! :D
 
So, they way I described drawing it, you can see a right triangle, where the right angle is between the x component (drawn along the -x axis) and the y component (drawn upward from the end of the x component).  One acute angle of this triangle is formed between the resultant vector and the -x axis (or, if you prefer, between the resultant and the x component, which lies along the -x axis).  With respect to that angle, the x component is the adjacent side of the triangle, because that side comes right up to that angle.  On the other hand, the y component does not touch that angle, so it is the opposite side.
 
For a given acute angle in a right triangle, the tangent of that angle is equal to the ratio of the length of the side opposite it over the side adjacent to it.
 
For the angle I described above, between the resultant vector and the -x axis, the tangent of that that angle is given by the formula in the previous answer, which leads to:
 
 
θ = tan-1(Ry/Rx) = tan-1(1.941/3.959) = 26.1o
 
Note that I stripped the signs off both components and used just the magnitude of the vectors in this case, because -- referencing the angle to the -x axis and making the triangle as I described above, the fact that the x component was negative was no longer germane -- because I am now referencing this angle to the -x axis, rather than the conventional +x axis.
 
So, from this, we see the resultant vector makes an angle of about 26o above the -x axis.  Now, conventionally, I would say that, if we wanted to measure this angle in the standard +x axis, counterclockwise way, that angle would be between the +x axis and the resultant vector, measured counterclockwise.  This would make the angle the supplement of the 26o I calculated a little bit ago, or 180-26 = 154o.
 
However, your instructor appears to want an answer measured from the +x axis clockwise.  In that case, you would have to go 180o clockwise to get from the  +x to the -x axis, an then go an additional 26o to get to the resultant vector.  So the resultant is at 180o+26o = 206o, as your answer list.
 
I hope this helps some more.  If you want to look at it with more drawing capability and live interaction, we can always have a short online session where we can share a drawing board.
 
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