Jason M.

asked • 08/13/13

Explain how to factor the following trinomials forms: x² + bx + c and ax² + bx + c.

Is there more than one way to factor this? Show your answer using both words and mathematical notation? Provide an expression for your classmate to factor.

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Nataliya D. answered • 08/13/13

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Patricia S. answered • 08/13/13

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Kirill Z. answered • 08/13/13

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Patricia S.

With all due respect, Kirill, the example that you gave does not support your statement that my algorithm does not work.

Point #1: You stated: "if you consider reduced trinomial x^2-7, then her algorithm will find GCF=1, pair of numbers that multiply to get 7 are 1 and 7 or -1 and -7, but what is b??"

If you factor out a GCF of 1, your reduced trinomial becomes 1 * (x^2 - 7).  Since the 1 is considered trivial by mathematicians because it does not change the meaning of the equation, this would then be written as x^2 - 7, which is exactly where you started.

Secondly, 7 and 1 (and -7 and -1) are TWO pairs of numbers that multiply to 7, but as you pointed out, they are not the only ones, especially if you consider radical numbers.

Point #2: Yes, b = 0 in the example that you cited.  You suggested that the factored version of x^2 - 7 = (x-sqrt(7)) * (x+sqrt(7)).  

I would like to point out that -sqrt(7) + sqrt(7) = 0.  And so your example still supports my algorithm.

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08/13/13

Fred T.

Umm... Actually the math works from Patricia's response. It looks pretty bad to tear down another tutors response when it's actually right! You might want to avoid pointing fingers in the future.

The GCF is used to reduce or factor out the leading coefficient "a", while the roots of the polynomial are "c/a". In your example "c/a" = 7. What two numbers satisfy the constraints N1 * N2 = 7 (step #2 is Patricia's recap) and N1 + N2 = 0 (step #3 in Patricia's recap)? Positive sqrt(7) and negative sqrt(7), just like you got.

Please stick to answering the question in the future instead of impolitely, if not rudely, tearing down other peoples responses.

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08/13/13

Kirill Z.

Sorry, guys, no offense meant, but what you said will most likely mislead student. I am not saying it is wrong, I said it does not work in the sense that is will be notoriously difficult to apply in some cases. True, √7 and -√7 multiply to -7. But they are not the only ones. right? And what about the trinomial x^2+ln(5)x-sin(10^100)? Will you see immediately, or, to that matter, in any foreseeable future two factors? I wouldn't. And I wouldn't even bother, because it does not even make any sense to try! Now, could you, please, present any objection against my points, not against the way I phrased my response?

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08/13/13

Kirill Z.

Note: my last question in my last comment was referred to Fred's response. I am truly curious if he has any objections or corrections and would like to hear them. In fact, I did make a mistake in my original response. Too bad no one actually checked my answer, preferring to write personal reprimands instead.

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