Asked • 05/30/24

Inflection Points on Polar Curve

For what values of Α > 0 has the polar curve r(θ) = Α +cos(θ) inflection points?

Kevin S.

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The exact meaning of inflection point can vary by teacher/class/book. You'll have to provide that to be sure of an answer.
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06/01/24

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Dayv O. answered • 05/31/24

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Roger R.

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Typo: K = [ r² +2(r')² - r⋅r'' ] / [ (r² +(r')² ]^1.5. The numerator depends on A and cos θ. It can change its sign if 1 < A < 2.
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05/31/24

Dayv O.

thanks, hopefully correction in my answer is proper.
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05/31/24

Roger R.

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Yes, it's okay.
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06/01/24

Dayv O.

when θ=pi, then A^2-3A+2=numerator.That is where 1<A<2 is found, Now, looking at A=1.75, the numerator goes from positive to negative negative to positive at cosθ=-81/84.
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Frank T.

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How would those be found?
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Paul M.

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Davy O.: I have seen several definitions in respected places; I don't know which one to believe, in fact. However, I think the 2nd derivative of the unit circle at x=1 is 0 and the sign of it changes as it crosses the x-axis. At least by one definition I have seen, this meets the criteria. I would be happy if you (or someone else) would show me that there is an agreed on definition. Thank you.
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Dayv O.

y'' not equal to zero x=1 and x=-1. both y' and y'' do not exist x=1 and x=-1
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Kevin S.

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There is not an agreed upon definition, nor does there need to be. You can even find different definitions in different major textbooks. (Even if someone somehow disagrees, different teachers do, and that is the reality for the student.) This generally indicates people have found it more useful to keep the definition flexible that to pin one thing down. In this case, a change in curvature sign is probably the most likely, but it could simply be referring to an inflection point for the function. It's not a matter of opinion, it just has to be decided up front. It is on the student posting to provide the definition from class.
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Dayv O.

Paul/Kevin -- see question I added about unit circle 2nd derivative at x=1. It is not zero. Same with r=A+cos(t) when t=0. I cannot fathom any mathematics definition of inflection being applied to circles (including r=constant in polar coordinates). Same with lines (including y=constant in rectangular coordinates). If a person is blindfolded, are there two inflection points when riding merry go round?
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06/03/24

Kevin S.

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I don't see where you've added it and am not sure how to get alerts on responses. But I agree about circles (I think the confusion is from think of the circle as two y-valued functions). I was just making a general comment about how definitions work.
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06/06/24

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