Mth S.
asked 12/03/23solve for dy/dx when x = (x/y) - 4y
I solved the equation by getting y on one side and then solve for the derivative using the quotient rule. I got:
dy/dx = [4y - 4x(dy/dx)] / [(x+4y)^2]
Is it ok if I leave dy/dx in my solution? How would you go about solving this? Or is there a better way to go about solving it?
Thank you for your time.
2 Answers By Expert Tutors
William C. answered 12/03/23
Experienced Tutor Specializing in Chemistry, Math, and Physics
Differentiate both sides to get
Multiply both sides by y2 to get
y2 = y – xy' – 4y2y'
Now add xy' + 4y2y' to, and subtract y2 from, both sides:
xy' + 4y2y' = y – y2
Factor the left hand side:
y'(x + 4y2) = y – y2
Divide both sides by x + 4y2 to get your answer:
Bradford T. answered 12/03/23
Retired Engineer / Upper level math instructor
Usually, you want to isolate the dy/dx term when doing implicit derivation. From the input given, I think
you made a mistake in doing the implicit derivation for the first step.
x = (x/y)-4y
Doing the implicit derivation:
1 = (y-xy')/y2-4y'
y2 = y-xy' -4y2y'
y2-y = -y'(x+4y2)
y' = dy/dx = (y-y2)/(x+4y2)
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Mth S.
I also had this practice problem: find dy/dx if xy^2 + 2y^3 = x - 2y; I got this long answer: dy/dx = [xy + 2y^2 + 2 - xy - x(dy/dx) - 4y(dy/dx)]/(xy + 2y^2 + 2)^2 Is my thought process on the right track?12/03/23