Brenda A.

asked • 10/20/14

write the standard form of the equation of the line through the given point with the given slope. through: (1,2) slope =7

I simply don't get this math, it is too confusing for me

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Stanton D. answered • 10/20/14

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Brenda A.

Thank you Damazo this was very helpful; I've always struggled in every math class even if i have tutors helping me hopefully this will help me for tonights test. Once again thank you 
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10/21/14

Stanton D.

Damazo,
Think you substituted in wrong for the known point x value, it's 1 not 2.
Your point on standard form terminology is well taken, however.
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10/21/14

Damazo T.

I really appreciated.  I did not notice until I did it again.  Again, thanks for double checking :)
 
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10/21/14

Stanton D.

Damazo -- this isn't an error comment, but a musing on -- if standard form is Ax + By = C, what privileges a particular set of A, B, and C if they're not rational (Diophantine) with respect to one another? Wouldn't Ax + By = 1 be a better rubric, so to speak, with two arbitrary constants, the same way that the point slope form y= Ax + B (but other A and B, obviously), is? 
When I asked a regular middle school math teacher in whose classroom I was sub/supplementing today, if to the standard equation for a plane Ax + By + Cz + D = 0, one added a particular crossterm on the left (say, + Exy), what curve would result, he was unable to visualize and say....
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10/21/14

Damazo T.

Well to answer your questions, there are restrictions for A, B and C.  They must be integers, A cannot be negative, and A, B, C cannot have a common factor other than 1.   Hey, I teach middle school math.  So, I am not use to answering the type of questions that you are posing.  I have to think about what you are saying. 
 
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10/21/14

Damazo T.

Ok.  You are making me think too much, but it is fun... Yes, you can reduce the C value to become one, but in that process the A or B term might not be an integer. For example, lets say the equation was 5x+6y= 3.  This becomes (5/3)X+ 2Y= 1.  And as I stated before, A, B, C must be an integer.  As far as the standard equation of a plane, it is
 a(x-x0)+b(y-y0)+c(z-z0)=0
 
Which can be simplified as
ax+by+cz=d   
 
I am looking it up in the internet, there is no +Exy term
 
The person probably did not know, or remember, what he or she was talking about.  The equations of planes are not part of the GEOMETRY( we use the same book in the middle and high school) curriculum as far as I know.  And, as I mentioned before I teach Middle school, including Geometry once in a while.  So, I am not really familiar to what exactly you are talking about.  It was food for thought, though.  I now fill full :). Thanks.
 
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10/21/14

Stanton D.

Damazo, I didn't mean that it would stay a plane, obviously it couldn't. But what distortion would that introduce -- I'm thinking it becomes a saddle -- puckered upwards in two opposite "quadrants" and downwards in the other two. But then trying to visualize puckering THAT form along other axes, for an additional crossproduct term -- that does test my limits.
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