
Michael L.
asked 09/28/17how would i find the y = version of this expression?
i need to turn xy = yx into a y = version so that i can take its derivative. how would i go about this?
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Kris V. answered 09/28/17
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I am not sure that an explicit y = f(x) can be found for this problem, but the derivative can still be found for this problem.
ln(xy) = ln(yx)
ylnx = xlny
Taking derivative of both sides with respect to x where y' = dy/dx
y'(lnx) + y(1/x) = lny + x(1/y)y'
(lnx - x/y)y' = lny - y/x
y' = (lny - y/x)/(lnx -x/y)

Arturo O. answered 09/28/17
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Take natural logarithm of both sides.
ln(xy) = ln(yx)
y ln(x) = x ln(y)
Now do implicit differentiation, using the chain rule.
y' ln(x) + y(1/x) = (1)ln(y) + x(1/y)y'
y' ln(x) + y/x = ln(y) + xy'/y
y'[ln(x) - x/y] = ln(y) - y/x
y'(x,y) = [ln(y) - y/x] / [ln(x) - x/y]
Now you need the particular point (x1,y1) where you want to evaluate y'.
y'(x1,y1) = [ln(y1) - y1/x1] / [ln(x1) - x1/y1]
I am not sure we can do much more without a pair of coordinates.
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Arturo O.
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