Arthur D. answered 09/08/15
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to have one of the dice show a 4 you have the following possibilities:
41,14,42,24,43,34,44,45,54,46,64
for the sum to be at least 8, you have 5 8s, 4 9s, 3 10s, 2 11s, and 1 12
you can't repeat an outcome
there are only 4 8s because we already have 44
there are only 2 9s because we already have 45 and 54
there is only 1 10 because we already have 46 and 64
the total number of favorable outcomes is 11+4+2+1+2+1=21
the probability is 21/36=7/12