Zuhaib S.

asked • 05/07/15

Calculus (Integration)

∫ln(x) sin-1x dx

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Michael J. answered • 05/07/15

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Michael W.

Michael, I don't see how your version works.  When you get down to the "reapply this method" step, you made u  equal to something to the -1/2 power.  And then you took its derivative, but instead of subtracting from the power, you added to it.  So that part of the integral ends up being to the -3/2, not 1/2 as you wrote, and it just gets worse, not better.
 
Does my approach, making u = lnx and dv = arcsin(x), not work?
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05/07/15

Michael J.

Thanks for catching my error there.  Since I was finding the derivative part, I needed to subtract the exponents.  I should only add them when finding the integral part.  I mixed them up honestly. 
 
On another note, integration by parts is a painful technique to use.  Either of our approaches could work, or it could not.  One thing I learned about using this method is that it takes a lot of trial and error to get a solution. 
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05/07/15

Michael W.

No, Michael J., I believe your approach keeps making the polynomial more and more complicated, so it ends up not working at all.  I stand corrected if you can show us how it'd actually lead to answer.
 
For the benefit of the person who posted the question:
 
I've seen two acronyms that take most of the guesswork out of integration by parts:
 
- "LIPET" (logs, inverse trig, polynomial, exponential, trig)
- "LIATE" (logs, inverse trig, algebraic, trig, exponential)
 
You use these to decide which function to call "u"--the one you're going to differentiate.  And the acronyms are  essentially the same.  "Polynomial" and "Algebraic" are two different names for the same kind of function, like x to a power...and by the time you get down to the exponentials and the trig, it's gonna get rough either way, so it doesn't matter which is which.  :)
 
It's a tough technique, but for many of the problems, it's not blind guesswork.
 
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